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WHEN “WORKER BEE” PARTNERS GET STUNG WITH TAXES - by Cliff Ennico

Book coverPosted by permission of Cliff Ennico – author of The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book – Get your copy at www.TaxandLegalBook.com

 

WHEN “WORKER BEE” PARTNERS GET STUNG WITH TAXES

By Cliff Ennico

            “Two friends and I are forming a limited liability company (LLC).   Two of us are putting in $50,000 each to get the business off the ground.  The third friend doesn’t have any money, but will be the one who works in the business every day.  We call her the ‘worker bee’.  We want to be equal partners, because we’re friends after all.  We thought that by valuing the ‘worker bee’s’ labor at $100 an hour, she will have earned a full one-third interest in the LLC after she works 500 hours worth $50,000.  But our accountant tells us it doesn’t work that way.  How can we set up this company in a way that’s fair to all three of us?”

            What you have proposed is eminently reasonable and fair.  Unfortunately, it’s not the law.

By putting in $50,000 each as capital to the LLC in exchange for a one-third interest each, you and your “rich” friend have established the value of the LLC as $150,000 ($50,000 x 3 partners).  Your worker bee partner would have to put in $50,000 also in order to justify a full one-third interest at this time. 

Since labor has no value under the federal Tax Code, giving the worker bee a one-third interest in the LLC today is giving her “compensation” equal to $50,000 (in the IRS view, giving her something worth $50,000 for nothing is the same as giving her $50,000 in cash).  Unfortunately, the IRS won’t accept anything but cold, hard cash when it comes time to pay your taxes. 

Whenever somebody has to pay taxes on income she didn’t actually receive in the form of cash, the income is called “phantom income”.  In this case, you have socked the worker bee with a $17,500 phantom income tax bill (assuming she is in the top 35% federal income tax bracket) without giving her anything to pay those taxes with.  The worker bee won’t be happy about that, will she?

There are a couple of ways you can deal with this from a tax perspective:

Option # 1:  You can give the worker bee a small LLC interest (say, one percent) today, and give her – in addition to a cash salary — an additional 1% for each X hours that she works until she has worked her way up a full one-third interest.  That way she can “earn” her way into the company over a long period of time.  She will still have to pay taxes on the 1% “equity kickers” she receives, but as you are paying her cash on top of that while she works she will have the money to pay the taxes with when April 15 rolls around.  Also, instead of her having to pay tax on the “phantom income” in one lump installment, you are spreading the pain out over several years, which will make the amounts much easier for her to handle.

You can sweeten this approach even more by agreeing to “gross up” the worker bee’s compensation each year:  the LLC would pay the worker bee an amount each year equal to the federal and state taxes she is required to pay on the “phantom income” she receives each year (the amount is called a “gross-up payment”).  This way the worker bee can earn her way up to a full one-third interest without having to pay the taxes on it out of her own pocket.  Keep in mind, though, that the gross-up payment itself would be considered “compensation” to the worker bee, and she would have to pay taxes on THAT amount next year.  Of course, you could agree to “gross up” that payment as well, and the next, and the next .  . .

Option # 2:  The three of you could each put in a small amount of money (say, $10) as capital.  Then, you and your “rich” friend could make loans to the LLC of $50,000 each, with interest at a reasonable rate (say, 6% per annum), payable over the next few years.  That way, the three of you would be equal partners from Day One without any adverse tax consequences to the worker bee.  Of course, the $100,000 in loans would have to be paid off, with interest, over time.  You and your “rich” friend would have to pay taxes on the interest you receive on those loans each year, but not on any repayments of the principal.

If you select Option # 2, make sure the loans can be prepaid at any time “in whole or in part, without premium or penalty,” and then devote any excess cash flow from the business to paying off the loans.  Once the loans are paid off, all three of you will be truly equal partners, without any “phantom income” for the worker bee, and nobody will be “as angry as a wet hornet”.

            Cliff Ennico (cennico@legalcareer.com ) is a syndicated columnist, author and host of the PBS television series ‘Money Hunt’.  His latest books are ‘Small Business Survival Guide’ (Adams Media, $12.95) and ‘The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book’ (AMACOM, $19.95).  This column is no substitute for legal, tax or financial advice, which can be furnished only by a qualified professional licensed in your state.  To find out more about Cliff Ennico and other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit our Web page at www.creators.com.  COPYRIGHT 2007 CLIFFORD R. ENNICO.  DISTRIBUTED BY CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.

 

 

Hear how he did it! With entrepreneur and stay-at-home Dad Andrew of Baby Sleep Sound

2007-11-05_Andrew&SylviaAndrew Dolbin-MacNab is a stay at home Dad who had one of those ‘why isn’t someone else doing this as it would make my life easier’ moments while taking care of his beautiful daughter Sylvia one sleepless night. You won’t want to miss his story about how he came up with this idea, and the process he has taken on launching his idea to the world. It is quite brilliant, very inspiring & educational. He shared:

  • How he, literally, created his business with one hand
  • What service he chose for digital downloads
  • The marketing tools he is successfully using
  • The steps that he took to build and grow his original idea
  • How his new daughter Sylvia, helps him with the business
  • His ideas for balancing his stay-at-home world with his entrepreneurial world
  • What an elevator speech is
  • How he gets through those ‘hard’ days
  • What tools he has found that have created a successful site

Websites mentioned:

 

Baby Sleep Sound Website
Baby Sleep Sound eBay Store
Template Monster

i-Stock Photo
Happiest Baby on the Block - book
e-junkie
i-Contact
Baby Sleep Sound partners
Business Cards

Baby Sleep Sound tools

 

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with Andrew Dolbin MacNab

eBay PowerSeller Jen Nold of 1PetsPalace shares her Success

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What an amazing, information packed interview today with Jen Nold of 1PetsPalace. Her story of how the business was built is filled with the points of her Success. She shared:

  • How a hobby turned into a business
  • What previous experience that gave her the skills to be successful on eBay
  • Balancing the family and the eBay business
  • What it took to become a PowerSeller in 3 months
  • How a VeRO notice sent her down the path to Success
  • Where she locates her products
  • Tips for new sellers
  • The marketing tips she uses that creates a high return customer rate

Websites Mentioned:

Jen’s eBay Store - 1PetsPalace
Register for an eBay Store
Purchase the eBay Stores Success Video
Vero

Stephanie of Katiyana’s Collectibles

PixClinic

Allegro Accounting
Keep More
SCORE
Turbo Lister
Selling Manager Pro
Squidoo
MySpace

Business Cards
Time Cubes

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with Jen Nold

Success With Cindy - Marcia and Harvey eBay Education Specialists guest stars

MarciaandharveyMarcia Cooper and partner Harvey Levine are eBay Buyers, Gold PowerSellers and Trading Assistants working together for 6 years. Their motto is “we practice what we preach!” as Powersellers with 100% Positive Feedback. Two of the first Education Specialists trained by eBay, they teach around the country in various colleges and organizations and have achieved one of the top five-star U.S. ratings as Education Specialists Trained by eBay and Certified eBay Business Consultant.

We’re going to talk about thinking out of the box when it comes to marketing, talk more about integrating the trading assistant program with your teaching, computer training and more.

 

Even if you are not an Education Specialist there will be plenty to learn. Topics include:

  • How they tag team their trainings
  • What they hand out in their classes
  • Information that they give away during their classes
  • What an elevator speech is and how you can use one
  • How to handle a client who thinks their items are worth more than they are
  • Marketing ideas that are genius
  • Ways to get more students into your classes
  • What they promote as ‘back of the room’ products
  • Tips for working with non-profits
  • What one trait that a successful ESP’er needs

Websites mentioned:

Success With Cindy
Clover City Newsletter
eBay Education Specialist Program
General Enterprises Website

Folders
General Enterprises About Me page

Publicity Insider
WS Radio

Cindy’s Affiliate Program

 

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with Marcia and Harvey

The Girl’s Guide to Building a Million Dollar Business - author Susan Wilson Solovic

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Very powerful interview today with CEO and chairman of SBTV. Susan is a best-selling author, an attorney, a nationally recognized keynote speaker and an award winning small business journalist. Her career has taken her from television news to the Executive ranks of a Fortune 100 company. Susan shared that women are launching companies at twice the rate of men…yet only 3% of those companies are million dollar companies. She shared with us today how to change that including:

  • Ways to stop self-sabotaging your business
  • Who you should surround yourself with for success
  • The four strategic keys to growing your business
  • Why being popular won’t make you financially successful
  • How to ‘let go to grow’
  • Resources for increasing your business opportunities
  • How your core values can help keep you on track

Websites mentioned:

Girl’s Guide to Building a Million Dollar Business - book
The Girls Guide to Power and Success

Daily Candy
SBTV
Fierce Conversations - book

Dancing Deer Baking Company
SBTV community
SBTV Blogs
Susan’s Blog

Make Mine a Million


 

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with Susan Wilson Solovic

 

eBay PowerSeller Darlene shares her $260,000 Success Secrets

DarleneDarlene’s first year of selling on eBay netted her sales of over $260,000 – Find out how she did it, lessons learned and how she has grown.

Darlene shared:

  • How she made that $260,000
  • Why setting goals helped her achieve her Success
  • The tool that got her into Google
  • How she balances her family and her work
  • Tips for new sellers

Websites mentioned:

Darlene’s eBay Store - Designer Rugs and More
Register for an eBay Store
Purchase the eBay Stores Success Video
Darlene’s eBay Education Specialist site
Selling Manager Pro

PayPal Click and Ship
Terapeak
ESP Donna Bond
Amex
MySpace
Squidoo

 

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with Darlene Farmer

Pre-paid Legal for you and your Business

Could you benefit from affordable access to a qualified attorney for all of life’s legal situations? Plans cover unlimited advice, Will preparation, consumer issues, contract review, real estate issues, false credit reports, letters and phone calls, traffic court, law suits in connection with work, IRS audits, and more. The monthly fee starts at $26.

I think this could be a great idea for TA contracts, NDA’s (non-disclosure agreements) for your contract/employed workers, information on setting up your business, etc.

Websites mentioned:

Pre-paid Legal services
Tipping Point - book
Rich Dad Poor Dad - book

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview about PrePaid Legal

Success With Cindy - eBay Education Specialist “CJ” guest stars

CjBrilliant interview in Cindy Shebley’s new series for eBay Education Specialists. Her guest this week was CJ of XOXmas - a PowerSeller, eBay Education Specialist, and Trading Assistant. Information she shared included:

  • How being an eBay Education Specialist helped her with her Trading Assistant business
  • What the differences are between being an eBay Education Specialist and a Trading Assistant
  • Tips for writing a profitable esp bio
  • Creative ideas for getting students into your classes
  • Places to hold your classes
  • Ideas on how to do your first class
  • Why you should work towards your business certification
  • Tips on dealing with those ‘high maintenance’ students
  • Most important quality for an ESP

Websites mentioned:

Success With Cindy

Clover City Newsletter
eBay Education Specialist Program
CJ’s eBay Store - XOXmas
eBay Trading Assistant Program
Monopoly Games
Register for an eBay Stores
eBay Stores Success Video (1% Club)

 

Click Here to listen to this Rock Star Interview with CJ

More Taxing Questions from Internet Retailers by Cliff Ennico

Book coverPosted by permission of Cliff Ennico – author of The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book – Get your copy at www.TaxandLegalBook.com

 

MORE TAXING QUESTIONS FROM INTERNET RETAILERS

By Cliff Ennico

            The following questions came up during a Webinar I hosted last week for Avalara Inc., a Seattle, Washington based company that specializes in sales tax compliance solutions for Web-based merchants (www.avalara.com):

            “Does a business have to be a corporation or a limited liability company (LLC) to work with wholesalers?  Will the supplier be more likely to give the seller an account than if they are a sole proprietor, or does the supplier care at all?”

            An online retailer does not have to be a corporation or LLC to buy from suppliers, but it does help.  Some wholesalers are reluctant to deal with individual “sole proprietors” because of the risk they will be considered “employees” of the supplier for tax purposes, or of the possibility that the wholesaler will have to send 1099 forms out at the end of each year (more on that below).  Also, forming a corporation or LLC makes you look a whole lot bigger than you actually are, and demonstrates to everyone you come into contact with your intention to treat your online selling as a “business” and not as a “hobby”. 

            “Does an online seller need to give Form 1099 to their vendors at the end of the year?  What if the supplier is out of the country?”

            Online sellers do not have to send Form 1099 to wholesalers with whom they are dealing at arm’s length.  They do, however, have to send Form 1099s to consignors and drop shippers for whom they act as selling agent, unless (1) the consignor or drop shipper is a corporation, or (2) the total amount the online seller paid the consignor or drop shipper during the calendar year was less than $600.  Generally, online sellers do not need to send Form 1099 to overseas vendors if they are not already subject to U.S. taxes (i.e. have no legal presence in the U.S.); if they do have a U.S. presence, then the above rules apply.

            “If an online seller wants to source products from a supplier that is based overseas, do they need to obtain a license to start importing products?”

            Generally, a federal “import license” is required only to import certain products – basically, the same ones you probably would need a state license to sell if you were selling them domestically (think alcohol, tobacco, motor vehicles and the like).  Talk to a “customs broker” or international trade lawyer to find out if any license requirements apply to your business (to find a customs broker in your area, check out www.ncbfaa.org). 

One exception concerns goods that are subject to trade “quotas” – when importing these you will need to get a license from the exporting country certifying that each shipment is within the annual U.S. quota.  If it isn’t, you will have to wait until next January when the new annual quota kicks in.

            “If an online seller is selling name brand products, how can they make sure that the supplier they are using isn’t infringing anybody else’s products?  Is the process the same when the supplier is outside of the country?”

            Ask to see copies of documents authorizing the supplier to deal in brand name merchandise, or contact the manufacturer directly (eBay’s “Verified Rights Owner” or VeRO program — http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-vero-ov.html — can put you in touch with many luxury-goods manufacturers).  And use common sense – Gucci does not authorize manufacturers in rural China to license their products to eBay sellers in the U.S.  When in doubt, assume that the supplier is dealing in illegal “knockoffs”, and source your product elsewhere.  Also, when dealing with factories in the developing world, make sure they are not using prisoners or “slave laborers” in their manufacturing operations.

            “What are some big mistakes online sellers make when trying to negotiate with suppliers?”

            First, failing to negotiate at all.  Too many small businesses assume that their suppliers’ prices are non-negotiable when they order in small quantities, and it’s just not true.  Many suppliers – especially overseas – will not take you seriously as a retailer if you do not attempt to negotiate their prices.

            Second, assuming that the price is the only negotiable item.  Even if a supplier stands firm on its price for certain goods, you might be able to negotiate the shipping, delivery, warranty and other “noncash” terms and conditions.  For a checklist of negotiable items in a typical wholesale purchase, see the contract forms at the end of my latest book, “The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book”.

            For a good basic negotiating guide, see the chapter on “Negotiating” in “Start Your Own Business”, edited by Rieva Lesonsky.

            Cliff Ennico (cennico@legalcareer.com ) is a syndicated columnist, author and host of the PBS television series ‘Money Hunt’.  His latest books are ‘Small Business Survival Guide’ (Adams Media, $12.95) and ‘The eBay Seller’s Tax and Legal Answer Book’ (AMACOM, $19.95).  This column is no substitute for legal, tax or financial advice, which can be furnished only by a qualified professional licensed in your state.  To find out more about Cliff Ennico and other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit our Web page at www.creators.com.  COPYRIGHT 2007 CLIFFORD R. ENNICO.  DISTRIBUTED BY CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.

 

 

eBay PowerSeller Dixie of J. Marcel shares her Success Story

Dixie & billeBay PowerSeller Dixie Carroll of J. Marcel shoe store shared many steps to her success including:

  • How Dad knows best
  • Why she chose to sell shoes
  • What really made her become a PowerSeller
  • Truth about liquidators and middle-men
  • The gift that brought tears to her eyes
  • Why she initially wanted an eBay Store
  • What her aha moment was
  • Details about the process of designing her eBay Store
  • What caused her sales to go up by 20%
  • Her tip for researching designers
  • And a great tip on acquiring inventory

Websites we mentioned:

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